In safety speak, I have a feeling that a train "derailment" is anything where there's even the slightest slip. There are certainly not 1,000 East Palestines every year.
Thank you for the information about the brakes. I didn't know they had determined that wasn't it.
And you're right that with all that money, we should be able to help the people of Ohio, but I'd say we also should have been able to make the rails safer.
Mostly agree. My knowledge of trains is from the manufacturing side, but that did expose me to the retail side as well. My understanding is that derailment is like pregnant: she cannot be "just a little bit pregnant," she's either pregnant or she is not. The "slightest slip" is invariably a very expensive and dangerous crash.
True, which is why even the slightest slip might be considered a "derailment" for the purposes of counting.
It's not that the numbers are "false." It's that unless you know what they consider a "derailment" you don't know how outraged to be. It's a lot like counting "COVID deaths." One would think that a "COVID" death would be someone who died of COVID, right? Meaning, had they not had COVID, they would most definitely be alive today, or, slightly more ambiguous but still justifiable, they had something else going on that weakened them or they were already dying but COVID tipped the scales and brought the end faster than it would have come.
But, no, the only sure thing that you could really say was that a "COVID death" was anyone who died and had a positive test for COVID (which isn't the same as saying they had COVID), and really you couldn't go that far. A "COVID death" is any death where someone designated them as COVID *even if* they didn't have a test.
And I'm going on because those throwing out these numbers depend on people assuming there is a sane and utilitarian definition in play when really there isn't and so in order to know what you're looking at, you have to know what their definition of "COVID death" or "derailment" is.
Firstly, there is no 'test' for Covid that proves anything to be 'positive' except that the PCR test is a positive fraud for using it in this manner according to its inventor.
The entire scamdemic is a criminal fraud upon the world and the people involved in spreading it should be executed immediately
I am rather bitterly grateful for everything that exposes people's true natures. These past three years have done more to do that than a century of normal time.
Transiting from anger to sorrow--we have a lot of rails-to-trails work up here and it's an unhappy reminder of how much we lose when we lose the facilities supporting travel by train. Such a lovely mode of getting around and being able to see and enjoy so much while we do so.
The love us as long as we know our place and don't inconvenience them too much with our whiny demands and pay our taxes promptly so they can funnel said money to Raytheon or Pfizer. ;-)
The women on The View jumped the rails years ago... one is crazier than the next and they all have hatred flowing in their veins. May their blood turn to sludge... yeah, that’s mean but they have done enough damage.
Few seem to be willing to entertain the idea that the entirety of both the Rebub and Demo trips to East Palestine (and no where else, there are so many toxic spills now) is a huge arranged play to keep one or the other in power. If the Dems know they are out, their best option is to let the Repubs look good for a second; Cokes or Pepsi's, all the same in the end. Prove me wrong.
In safety speak, I have a feeling that a train "derailment" is anything where there's even the slightest slip. There are certainly not 1,000 East Palestines every year.
Thank you for the information about the brakes. I didn't know they had determined that wasn't it.
And you're right that with all that money, we should be able to help the people of Ohio, but I'd say we also should have been able to make the rails safer.
Mostly agree. My knowledge of trains is from the manufacturing side, but that did expose me to the retail side as well. My understanding is that derailment is like pregnant: she cannot be "just a little bit pregnant," she's either pregnant or she is not. The "slightest slip" is invariably a very expensive and dangerous crash.
True, which is why even the slightest slip might be considered a "derailment" for the purposes of counting.
It's not that the numbers are "false." It's that unless you know what they consider a "derailment" you don't know how outraged to be. It's a lot like counting "COVID deaths." One would think that a "COVID" death would be someone who died of COVID, right? Meaning, had they not had COVID, they would most definitely be alive today, or, slightly more ambiguous but still justifiable, they had something else going on that weakened them or they were already dying but COVID tipped the scales and brought the end faster than it would have come.
But, no, the only sure thing that you could really say was that a "COVID death" was anyone who died and had a positive test for COVID (which isn't the same as saying they had COVID), and really you couldn't go that far. A "COVID death" is any death where someone designated them as COVID *even if* they didn't have a test.
And I'm going on because those throwing out these numbers depend on people assuming there is a sane and utilitarian definition in play when really there isn't and so in order to know what you're looking at, you have to know what their definition of "COVID death" or "derailment" is.
Firstly, there is no 'test' for Covid that proves anything to be 'positive' except that the PCR test is a positive fraud for using it in this manner according to its inventor.
The entire scamdemic is a criminal fraud upon the world and the people involved in spreading it should be executed immediately
I don't disagree.
I am rather bitterly grateful for everything that exposes people's true natures. These past three years have done more to do that than a century of normal time.
Transiting from anger to sorrow--we have a lot of rails-to-trails work up here and it's an unhappy reminder of how much we lose when we lose the facilities supporting travel by train. Such a lovely mode of getting around and being able to see and enjoy so much while we do so.
Fully agree.
The government loves us citizens. Well, as long as we work for Raytheon or Pfizer.
The love us as long as we know our place and don't inconvenience them too much with our whiny demands and pay our taxes promptly so they can funnel said money to Raytheon or Pfizer. ;-)
The women on The View jumped the rails years ago... one is crazier than the next and they all have hatred flowing in their veins. May their blood turn to sludge... yeah, that’s mean but they have done enough damage.
As my father used to say, it's amazing they are not poisoned by their own spit.
That’s a new one and most excellent expression! It’s perfect, everything they say is so toxic. Saving for future use.
they're all sociopathic ***** (I can't post the word but you know what it is)
Thanks, I really don’t like that word but in this case, it truly applies.
Few seem to be willing to entertain the idea that the entirety of both the Rebub and Demo trips to East Palestine (and no where else, there are so many toxic spills now) is a huge arranged play to keep one or the other in power. If the Dems know they are out, their best option is to let the Repubs look good for a second; Cokes or Pepsi's, all the same in the end. Prove me wrong.
I cannot prove you wrong. I will note that the Democrats appear more willing to support authoritarianism than the Republicans.
Coke seems a little heavier and sweeter than Pepsi.
Both sugar water that will give you diabetes and rot your teeth
Americans are all insane according to Einstein's definition.
They think voting for these psychopathic liars will 'fix' anything.
And they won't accept responsibility for allowing this charade to continue.
Waiting for Jesus to return is just their other way of not accepting responsibility for their choices in life that got us here.